1
00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:09,680
uh

2
00:00:09,690 --> 00:00:27,189
[Music]

3
00:00:27,199 --> 00:00:33,220
off in my time machine

4
00:00:33,230 --> 00:00:36,709
[Music]

5
00:00:42,150 --> 00:00:40,150
blast off on another episode of hero

6
00:00:44,630 --> 00:00:42,160
paranormal podcast

7
00:00:48,229 --> 00:00:44,640
broadcasting from the base at la madre

8
00:00:50,950 --> 00:00:48,239
mountain just south of area 51.

9
00:00:52,869 --> 00:00:50,960
my name is ryan the original outlaw of

10
00:00:54,549 --> 00:00:52,879
the airwaves bringing you an epic

11
00:00:57,670 --> 00:00:54,559
episode today

12
00:00:59,830 --> 00:00:57,680
on today's podcast we have a couple of

13
00:01:03,270 --> 00:00:59,840
guests i've been wanting to talk to for

14
00:01:05,189 --> 00:01:03,280
a long time these are people that really

15
00:01:07,109 --> 00:01:05,199
know their stuff they know what they're

16
00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:07,119
talking about they've been there they've

17
00:01:11,190 --> 00:01:10,080
done that they got the t-shirt

18
00:01:13,429 --> 00:01:11,200
we are

19
00:01:16,789 --> 00:01:13,439
really really lucky to have them on

20
00:01:19,749 --> 00:01:16,799
today we have mike wazowski and

21
00:01:21,270 --> 00:01:19,759
rainbow riddali and

22
00:01:23,190 --> 00:01:21,280
rainbow and mike

23
00:01:25,190 --> 00:01:23,200
have been in the paranormal world for

24
00:01:27,990 --> 00:01:25,200
over 40 years

25
00:01:29,510 --> 00:01:28,000
each as experiencers and they've done

26
00:01:33,190 --> 00:01:29,520
extensive work

27
00:01:36,230 --> 00:01:33,200
with sasquatch portals vortexes

28
00:01:37,190 --> 00:01:36,240
and i guess all things paranormal

29
00:01:40,789 --> 00:01:37,200
and

30
00:01:44,230 --> 00:01:40,799
they have an amazing website truth

31
00:01:46,230 --> 00:01:44,240
seeker forum definitely check that out

32
00:01:49,109 --> 00:01:46,240
mike was a founding member and director

33
00:01:53,030 --> 00:01:49,119
of the new mexico ufo

34
00:01:55,270 --> 00:01:53,040
organization and he has 118 original

35
00:01:58,389 --> 00:01:55,280
videos talking about research and

36
00:02:00,709 --> 00:01:58,399
first-hand experience on the subject

37
00:02:03,510 --> 00:02:00,719
now they have a daughter who has also

38
00:02:06,789 --> 00:02:03,520
had a strange

39
00:02:11,430 --> 00:02:06,799
experience uh in tucson arizona with a

40
00:02:14,309 --> 00:02:11,440
shape shifter type entity

41
00:02:16,630 --> 00:02:14,319
i assume this is going to be an

42
00:02:18,710 --> 00:02:16,640
absolutely epic

43
00:02:21,030 --> 00:02:18,720
epic podcast

44
00:02:22,869 --> 00:02:21,040
i can't acknowledge them enough for

45
00:02:25,190 --> 00:02:22,879
coming on with me i've been trying for

46
00:02:26,390 --> 00:02:25,200
some time to get the two of them on

47
00:02:29,030 --> 00:02:26,400
because

48
00:02:33,350 --> 00:02:29,040
it's it's twice the bang for your buck

49
00:02:35,990 --> 00:02:33,360
so to speak they're both just extremely

50
00:02:37,910 --> 00:02:36,000
intelligent knowledgeable researchers

51
00:02:41,270 --> 00:02:37,920
who have been doing this for over 40

52
00:02:44,710 --> 00:02:41,280
years so many thanks mike and rainbow

53
00:02:47,670 --> 00:02:44,720
welcome to the hero paranormal podcast

54
00:02:50,229 --> 00:02:47,680
thank you so much thank you ryan it's a

55
00:02:51,990 --> 00:02:50,239
pleasure to be with you today and our

56
00:02:53,589 --> 00:02:52,000
listeners don't know but we've had quite

57
00:02:55,509 --> 00:02:53,599
the uphill battle with technical

58
00:02:57,350 --> 00:02:55,519
difficulties but that that's part of the

59
00:02:59,830 --> 00:02:57,360
territory when you deal with this stuff

60
00:03:01,270 --> 00:02:59,840
it just kind of happens that way yeah

61
00:03:02,949 --> 00:03:01,280
yeah we're going to blame it

62
00:03:04,790 --> 00:03:02,959
we're going to blame it on the heat i'm

63
00:03:06,229 --> 00:03:04,800
sorry yeah

64
00:03:09,589 --> 00:03:06,239
and you know

65
00:03:12,070 --> 00:03:09,599
on my end it's a huge huge bonus to have

66
00:03:13,509 --> 00:03:12,080
you both on rainbow i'm so happy that

67
00:03:15,350 --> 00:03:13,519
you're on because

68
00:03:16,869 --> 00:03:15,360
i know that you've both done extensive

69
00:03:19,750 --> 00:03:16,879
work with

70
00:03:22,070 --> 00:03:19,760
portals vortexes sasquatch shape

71
00:03:24,869 --> 00:03:22,080
shifters and you know

72
00:03:26,070 --> 00:03:24,879
you have an amazing website truth seeker

73
00:03:28,390 --> 00:03:26,080
forum

74
00:03:29,830 --> 00:03:28,400
uh that i've mentioned to our listeners

75
00:03:31,990 --> 00:03:29,840
in the introduction

76
00:03:34,630 --> 00:03:32,000
and i've spoke with mike before and it

77
00:03:37,350 --> 00:03:34,640
was absolutely mind-blowing and i really

78
00:03:38,949 --> 00:03:37,360
feel like i'm getting a super bonus and

79
00:03:40,550 --> 00:03:38,959
same with the listeners having you on

80
00:03:42,630 --> 00:03:40,560
here as well so it's a it's a real

81
00:03:44,789 --> 00:03:42,640
pleasure to have you rainbow

82
00:03:47,509 --> 00:03:44,799
oh thank you

83
00:03:50,229 --> 00:03:47,519
so let me ask you this is kind of a a

84
00:03:52,550 --> 00:03:50,239
strange question but uh

85
00:03:55,910 --> 00:03:52,560
it how did you both

86
00:03:58,070 --> 00:03:55,920
get so involved in the paranormal and in

87
00:04:01,190 --> 00:03:58,080
vortexes and basically seeking after

88
00:04:03,830 --> 00:04:01,200
these truths

89
00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:03,840
you want to go first uh yeah sure

90
00:04:08,149 --> 00:04:06,560
ryan mine is a long history i guess is

91
00:04:09,670 --> 00:04:08,159
when i started when i was probably a

92
00:04:10,630 --> 00:04:09,680
teenager

93
00:04:17,670 --> 00:04:10,640
and

94
00:04:20,229 --> 00:04:17,680
you know ufos i guess was probably the

95
00:04:21,909 --> 00:04:20,239
first toe in the water and then i got

96
00:04:25,110 --> 00:04:21,919
into sasquatch i actually was going to

97
00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:25,120
do i was as a high school graduation

98
00:04:29,430 --> 00:04:27,360
trip i was going to go out to seattle

99
00:04:31,350 --> 00:04:29,440
seattle area and then you know go into

100
00:04:32,950 --> 00:04:31,360
the the woods or the wilderness with a

101
00:04:33,990 --> 00:04:32,960
good friend of mine but unfortunately my

102
00:04:36,070 --> 00:04:34,000
good friend

103
00:04:38,070 --> 00:04:36,080
that in a car accident and died just

104
00:04:39,749 --> 00:04:38,080
before we left or before we're gonna go

105
00:04:42,870 --> 00:04:39,759
but that was a that was a sad thing but

106
00:04:44,310 --> 00:04:42,880
it still motivated me to continue

107
00:04:46,790 --> 00:04:44,320
uh and

108
00:04:48,230 --> 00:04:46,800
i just you know been doing it i guess

109
00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:48,240
all my life

110
00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:50,000
you know i've been involved from a

111
00:04:55,270 --> 00:04:52,720
standpoint uh you know i had the ufo

112
00:04:59,270 --> 00:04:55,280
paranormal forum in new mexico

113
00:05:01,749 --> 00:04:59,280
i helped out with a uh atlanta ufo forum

114
00:05:05,029 --> 00:05:01,759
uh from for several years

115
00:05:07,029 --> 00:05:05,039
and you know i i've been you know had 13

116
00:05:09,590 --> 00:05:07,039
or 14 years now with the true secret

117
00:05:12,710 --> 00:05:09,600
forum and then this last year of course

118
00:05:14,070 --> 00:05:12,720
we we have our our very quite successful

119
00:05:16,550 --> 00:05:14,080
uh uh

120
00:05:19,029 --> 00:05:16,560
video youtube channel uh

121
00:05:21,110 --> 00:05:19,039
uh dimensional walking uh you know a

122
00:05:22,870 --> 00:05:21,120
paranormal journey so

123
00:05:25,590 --> 00:05:22,880
you know i just been doing it a very

124
00:05:28,390 --> 00:05:25,600
long time and and when i did the forum

125
00:05:29,990 --> 00:05:28,400
in albuquerque we would bring in people

126
00:05:31,990 --> 00:05:30,000
from all over the united states and some

127
00:05:34,310 --> 00:05:32,000
people from other parts of the world

128
00:05:36,790 --> 00:05:34,320
and and talk so it was one of the

129
00:05:39,110 --> 00:05:36,800
largest forums

130
00:05:41,430 --> 00:05:39,120
that there were we would meet right at

131
00:05:42,390 --> 00:05:41,440
almost at the gate kirkland air force

132
00:05:45,749 --> 00:05:42,400
base

133
00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:45,759
so uh you know it was pretty incredible

134
00:05:50,629 --> 00:05:48,400
uh because we had actually military etc

135
00:05:52,629 --> 00:05:50,639
coming to our our meeting and just

136
00:05:54,550 --> 00:05:52,639
sitting in the back just observing so it

137
00:05:57,110 --> 00:05:54,560
was really kind of strange it was a

138
00:05:59,510 --> 00:05:57,120
little bit eerie but it was it was just

139
00:06:01,590 --> 00:05:59,520
added to just the the

140
00:06:03,270 --> 00:06:01,600
amazing stuff that was going on in that

141
00:06:05,990 --> 00:06:03,280
particular area

142
00:06:07,189 --> 00:06:06,000
so anyways i've been involved for a very

143
00:06:09,110 --> 00:06:07,199
long time

144
00:06:10,870 --> 00:06:09,120
doing the research living in atlanta i

145
00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:10,880
did a lot of research up and down the

146
00:06:16,150 --> 00:06:12,800
appalachian mountains with abductees and

147
00:06:18,070 --> 00:06:16,160
contactees probably did about 1500 to

148
00:06:19,189 --> 00:06:18,080
2000 interviews

149
00:06:21,029 --> 00:06:19,199
so

150
00:06:22,790 --> 00:06:21,039
you know i've been i just been doing it

151
00:06:26,230 --> 00:06:22,800
for a very long time and

152
00:06:29,670 --> 00:06:26,240
enjoying doing it so rainbow

153
00:06:30,870 --> 00:06:29,680
um i'm the typical experiencer from

154
00:06:34,950 --> 00:06:30,880
childhood

155
00:06:36,710 --> 00:06:34,960
i had a lot of different um experiences

156
00:06:39,029 --> 00:06:36,720
with the paranormal

157
00:06:41,110 --> 00:06:39,039
and as a matter of fact i used to have

158
00:06:44,309 --> 00:06:41,120
what my parents would call religious

159
00:06:45,909 --> 00:06:44,319
visions and i would uh wake up screaming

160
00:06:48,550 --> 00:06:45,919
or

161
00:06:50,629 --> 00:06:48,560
and my parents were very uh very

162
00:06:53,110 --> 00:06:50,639
catholic and so they always associated

163
00:06:54,629 --> 00:06:53,120
stuff with the paranormal to

164
00:06:55,670 --> 00:06:54,639
you know seeing visions and stuff like

165
00:06:57,189 --> 00:06:55,680
that

166
00:06:59,670 --> 00:06:57,199
and then i had abductions from the time

167
00:07:02,150 --> 00:06:59,680
i was very young

168
00:07:03,510 --> 00:07:02,160
and when i hit 40 and i had experiences

169
00:07:05,909 --> 00:07:03,520
all the way through

170
00:07:08,390 --> 00:07:05,919
i studied to be a mesme in my 20s but

171
00:07:10,629 --> 00:07:08,400
when i hit my 40s is when

172
00:07:14,230 --> 00:07:10,639
something really amazing happened to me

173
00:07:16,790 --> 00:07:14,240
and all my memories came back of

174
00:07:19,350 --> 00:07:16,800
alien experiences things that happened

175
00:07:21,909 --> 00:07:19,360
at los alamos um

176
00:07:24,230 --> 00:07:21,919
in the area around los alamos labs

177
00:07:26,309 --> 00:07:24,240
and then uh you know just being in new

178
00:07:28,550 --> 00:07:26,319
mexico in the land of enchantment you

179
00:07:30,629 --> 00:07:28,560
have all kinds of things happening i

180
00:07:33,110 --> 00:07:30,639
have memory of

181
00:07:35,110 --> 00:07:33,120
working cattle because i was a cowgirl

182
00:07:37,830 --> 00:07:35,120
and actually

183
00:07:39,909 --> 00:07:37,840
we rode up to a ufo i actually touched

184
00:07:42,710 --> 00:07:39,919
it felt it but it didn't the memory

185
00:07:46,230 --> 00:07:42,720
didn't come back to me until i was i hit

186
00:07:48,230 --> 00:07:46,240
40. and so then my

187
00:07:50,869 --> 00:07:48,240
i always had experiences intense

188
00:07:53,270 --> 00:07:50,879
experiences and then once i hit 40 i

189
00:07:56,950 --> 00:07:53,280
realized that the journey had to i had

190
00:07:59,270 --> 00:07:56,960
to just go full throttle on the on my

191
00:08:03,589 --> 00:07:59,280
research and so that's what i ended up

192
00:08:05,909 --> 00:08:03,599
doing and i contacted norio hayakawa who

193
00:08:07,830 --> 00:08:05,919
was a very good friend of michael's and

194
00:08:10,150 --> 00:08:07,840
then i that's how i met michael through

195
00:08:12,869 --> 00:08:10,160
his group in new mexico

196
00:08:15,270 --> 00:08:12,879
and so now here we are it's been almost

197
00:08:17,110 --> 00:08:15,280
10 years where we've been exploring the

198
00:08:19,110 --> 00:08:17,120
paranormal and going further and deeper

199
00:08:22,230 --> 00:08:19,120
into it

200
00:08:24,710 --> 00:08:22,240
that is amazing and you know

201
00:08:28,550 --> 00:08:24,720
i love norio he's great i've had him on

202
00:08:29,749 --> 00:08:28,560
the podcast he is a wealth of knowledge

203
00:08:32,550 --> 00:08:29,759
and

204
00:08:34,709 --> 00:08:32,560
i remember uh mike he mentioned the

205
00:08:35,670 --> 00:08:34,719
exact story that you just mentioned

206
00:08:37,430 --> 00:08:35,680
about

207
00:08:39,990 --> 00:08:37,440
um the

208
00:08:41,589 --> 00:08:40,000
the interesting coincidences at some of

209
00:08:43,829 --> 00:08:41,599
these conferences

210
00:08:46,230 --> 00:08:43,839
let me get into dimensional walking a

211
00:08:49,110 --> 00:08:46,240
bit because that's how i came about

212
00:08:51,190 --> 00:08:49,120
finding you guys it's an amazing youtube

213
00:08:53,750 --> 00:08:51,200
series that you have on youtube

214
00:08:56,150 --> 00:08:53,760
dimensional walking and i really like

215
00:08:58,710 --> 00:08:56,160
the name it really sort of goes with the

216
00:09:00,310 --> 00:08:58,720
whole shape shifter motif and

217
00:09:02,949 --> 00:09:00,320
and how did you come across with that

218
00:09:04,630 --> 00:09:02,959
name and uh what started you on that

219
00:09:06,790 --> 00:09:04,640
that journey because you have all kinds

220
00:09:08,949 --> 00:09:06,800
of portal and vortex videos on there as

221
00:09:13,750 --> 00:09:08,959
well

222
00:09:15,829 --> 00:09:13,760
i was in my early twenties

223
00:09:17,670 --> 00:09:15,839
uh i was married to a medicine man his

224
00:09:18,550 --> 00:09:17,680
name was thunderbow

225
00:09:20,470 --> 00:09:18,560
and

226
00:09:23,350 --> 00:09:20,480
he was working with me

227
00:09:24,389 --> 00:09:23,360
where it we could call it

228
00:09:26,630 --> 00:09:24,399
um

229
00:09:29,269 --> 00:09:26,640
anything that you want it it's

230
00:09:31,269 --> 00:09:29,279
maybe slightly remote viewing some of

231
00:09:33,750 --> 00:09:31,279
it's out of body

232
00:09:36,150 --> 00:09:33,760
it's it's just it's all kinds of

233
00:09:37,990 --> 00:09:36,160
think about the carlos costenada series

234
00:09:39,910 --> 00:09:38,000
the book series we are working in

235
00:09:41,190 --> 00:09:39,920
something in that genre

236
00:09:43,910 --> 00:09:41,200
and so

237
00:09:45,590 --> 00:09:43,920
he coined it dimensional walking because

238
00:09:49,430 --> 00:09:45,600
basically he was training me how to do

239
00:09:51,430 --> 00:09:49,440
it and i was able to do amazing things

240
00:09:53,990 --> 00:09:51,440
in the dream state i mean i i would

241
00:09:55,430 --> 00:09:54,000
leave and and the whole point of the

242
00:09:57,350 --> 00:09:55,440
training was to get me to bring

243
00:10:00,310 --> 00:09:57,360
something back

244
00:10:03,509 --> 00:10:00,320
so because his the whole thing that that

245
00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:03,519
we were trying to do is to show that

246
00:10:07,910 --> 00:10:05,440
we're more than just our body

247
00:10:12,150 --> 00:10:07,920
and one thing that i had told thunderbow

248
00:10:14,310 --> 00:10:12,160
is that i i had the graves who were

249
00:10:16,389 --> 00:10:14,320
with me from the time i was very young

250
00:10:18,710 --> 00:10:16,399
they taught it to me as well they were

251
00:10:21,509 --> 00:10:18,720
teaching me how to do things because

252
00:10:23,430 --> 00:10:21,519
i remember them taking me

253
00:10:25,030 --> 00:10:23,440
and sometimes they wouldn't take you you

254
00:10:25,910 --> 00:10:25,040
know out the door they take you through

255
00:10:27,269 --> 00:10:25,920
a wall

256
00:10:29,269 --> 00:10:27,279
and so that's

257
00:10:31,350 --> 00:10:29,279
all a part of this it's a it's a

258
00:10:33,269 --> 00:10:31,360
different way of looking at the mind and

259
00:10:34,069 --> 00:10:33,279
looking at how

260
00:10:36,550 --> 00:10:34,079
we

261
00:10:39,430 --> 00:10:36,560
and so

262
00:10:40,470 --> 00:10:39,440
i actually had an experience with a

263
00:10:42,790 --> 00:10:40,480
stone

264
00:10:44,550 --> 00:10:42,800
a couple of years ago

265
00:10:48,630 --> 00:10:44,560
called labradorite

266
00:10:50,870 --> 00:10:48,640
and i actually had a dream of vision um

267
00:10:54,389 --> 00:10:50,880
i'm kind of going fast forward here but

268
00:10:56,870 --> 00:10:54,399
uh i had a dream i was shown this stone

269
00:10:58,949 --> 00:10:56,880
labradorite and i told michael i woke up

270
00:11:00,949 --> 00:10:58,959
i said i got to find the stone i went

271
00:11:04,389 --> 00:11:00,959
and found it and i started sleeping with

272
00:11:07,269 --> 00:11:04,399
it under my pillow which isn't smart

273
00:11:08,630 --> 00:11:07,279
but uh you know something that i was i

274
00:11:09,990 --> 00:11:08,640
was basically

275
00:11:12,630 --> 00:11:10,000
shown to do

276
00:11:14,550 --> 00:11:12,640
and then i had an experience where i

277
00:11:17,269 --> 00:11:14,560
actually went into another dimension

278
00:11:19,430 --> 00:11:17,279
another reality very close to this one

279
00:11:21,670 --> 00:11:19,440
and i i couldn't get out of it

280
00:11:23,350 --> 00:11:21,680
i was actually in a body

281
00:11:26,069 --> 00:11:23,360
looking through the eyes

282
00:11:28,949 --> 00:11:26,079
and i could not get out and i was in a

283
00:11:30,949 --> 00:11:28,959
house just like this one except it was

284
00:11:32,230 --> 00:11:30,959
slightly positioned differently

285
00:11:34,870 --> 00:11:32,240
where the stove was where the

286
00:11:36,310 --> 00:11:34,880
refrigerator was where back room was

287
00:11:37,750 --> 00:11:36,320
there was a little yappy dog we would

288
00:11:39,910 --> 00:11:37,760
never have a yappy dog i don't mind

289
00:11:41,590 --> 00:11:39,920
yuppie dogs but we wouldn't have one

290
00:11:43,590 --> 00:11:41,600
and there's you know just different

291
00:11:45,670 --> 00:11:43,600
things and and i was married to this man

292
00:11:47,990 --> 00:11:45,680
and i'm like who are you

293
00:11:50,870 --> 00:11:48,000
and he's freaking out because he's like

294
00:11:52,389 --> 00:11:50,880
what what's wrong with you and i went to

295
00:11:54,470 --> 00:11:52,399
bed

296
00:11:57,430 --> 00:11:54,480
in this this other reality very close to

297
00:11:59,350 --> 00:11:57,440
this one trying to wake myself up

298
00:12:02,389 --> 00:11:59,360
finally woke myself up

299
00:12:04,310 --> 00:12:02,399
just sat up in bed freaked out

300
00:12:05,430 --> 00:12:04,320
and i'm thinking oh my god what just

301
00:12:07,590 --> 00:12:05,440
happened

302
00:12:09,670 --> 00:12:07,600
went use the bathroom came back to bed

303
00:12:11,190 --> 00:12:09,680
immediately went back into that same

304
00:12:12,150 --> 00:12:11,200
reality again

305
00:12:15,750 --> 00:12:12,160
and

306
00:12:18,150 --> 00:12:15,760
i knocked stuff over i felt them i felt

307
00:12:19,750 --> 00:12:18,160
how solid they were i felt all kinds of

308
00:12:22,389 --> 00:12:19,760
stuff and this is the stuff that i used

309
00:12:23,750 --> 00:12:22,399
to do in my 20s and what the grades had

310
00:12:25,990 --> 00:12:23,760
taught me to do i hadn't done it in

311
00:12:27,750 --> 00:12:26,000
years because it's a very scary

312
00:12:30,870 --> 00:12:27,760
thing to do if you don't you can't

313
00:12:33,350 --> 00:12:30,880
control it so anyways i i for the second

314
00:12:34,710 --> 00:12:33,360
time i couldn't get out of that reality

315
00:12:35,670 --> 00:12:34,720
that realm

316
00:12:36,870 --> 00:12:35,680
finally

317
00:12:39,269 --> 00:12:36,880
i just

318
00:12:41,509 --> 00:12:39,279
meditated and wheeled myself out of

319
00:12:43,670 --> 00:12:41,519
there and i felt the tingly feeling of

320
00:12:45,110 --> 00:12:43,680
coming back into your body and i woke

321
00:12:47,509 --> 00:12:45,120
myself up

322
00:12:49,269 --> 00:12:47,519
and realized that i just i could not

323
00:12:51,350 --> 00:12:49,279
have the stone underneath my pillow i

324
00:12:54,069 --> 00:12:51,360
took the stone

325
00:12:55,350 --> 00:12:54,079
moved it and then i was telling michael

326
00:12:57,030 --> 00:12:55,360
all about what had happened to me and

327
00:12:58,470 --> 00:12:57,040
how scared i was because i actually woke

328
00:12:59,750 --> 00:12:58,480
him up

329
00:13:02,150 --> 00:12:59,760
and

330
00:13:04,629 --> 00:13:02,160
that's when we realized that i had done

331
00:13:06,550 --> 00:13:04,639
dimensional walking and because i had

332
00:13:07,590 --> 00:13:06,560
done so much in my 20s and when i was a

333
00:13:10,550 --> 00:13:07,600
kid

334
00:13:13,190 --> 00:13:10,560
and i it this this labradorite stone

335
00:13:15,269 --> 00:13:13,200
just brought it all back to me so now

336
00:13:17,190 --> 00:13:15,279
i'm a little bit more in control of it

337
00:13:18,790 --> 00:13:17,200
but that's why we named our channel

338
00:13:20,870 --> 00:13:18,800
dimensional walking michael said hey

339
00:13:22,389 --> 00:13:20,880
let's just call our channel this

340
00:13:26,069 --> 00:13:22,399
and there you go that's the short end of

341
00:13:31,350 --> 00:13:28,069
sorry that was long but no it was

342
00:13:35,269 --> 00:13:31,360
perfect a perfect elaboration and you

343
00:13:37,910 --> 00:13:35,279
know it's that what's so neat about this

344
00:13:40,949 --> 00:13:37,920
is you know it does seem that there is a

345
00:13:41,750 --> 00:13:40,959
lot of pre-southwestern origin involved

346
00:13:44,629 --> 00:13:41,760
with

347
00:13:46,710 --> 00:13:44,639
a lot of this uh

348
00:13:49,670 --> 00:13:46,720
type of thing whether it be

349
00:13:51,590 --> 00:13:49,680
being able to know where a portal is

350
00:13:52,790 --> 00:13:51,600
which i know you guys are very familiar

351
00:13:56,949 --> 00:13:52,800
with this

352
00:13:59,750 --> 00:13:56,959
and elements of some of the you know

353
00:14:01,750 --> 00:13:59,760
high strangeness whether that be

354
00:14:04,790 --> 00:14:01,760
shape shifters

355
00:14:06,790 --> 00:14:04,800
frenzy witchcraft all of this stuff does

356
00:14:09,590 --> 00:14:06,800
have kind of a pre-southwestern origin

357
00:14:11,509 --> 00:14:09,600
and so my my tentative guess you

358
00:14:13,670 --> 00:14:11,519
elaborated really well and i'm glad you

359
00:14:16,629 --> 00:14:13,680
didn't hesitate um

360
00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:16,639
really cool elements and

361
00:14:20,550 --> 00:14:18,160
so

362
00:14:22,389 --> 00:14:20,560
now that we know more or less how you

363
00:14:24,230 --> 00:14:22,399
got such a cool name for your youtube

364
00:14:27,990 --> 00:14:24,240
channel can you tell our listeners a

365
00:14:33,269 --> 00:14:28,790
uh

366
00:14:35,590 --> 00:14:33,279
to do is because

367
00:14:37,509 --> 00:14:35,600
i i guess we're we're able to one of the

368
00:14:39,750 --> 00:14:37,519
things i've been doing doing this for

369
00:14:41,910 --> 00:14:39,760
such a very long time and like i i

370
00:14:43,350 --> 00:14:41,920
probably know that you know i've been

371
00:14:46,230 --> 00:14:43,360
doing it since i was a teenager so

372
00:14:48,069 --> 00:14:46,240
that's well over 50 some years okay

373
00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:48,079
and and rainbow's been doing it for over

374
00:14:53,670 --> 00:14:50,320
i didn't want to say you're old

375
00:14:55,509 --> 00:14:53,680
okay so i'm old ryan just so you know if

376
00:14:57,990 --> 00:14:55,519
you didn't know that i'm old

377
00:14:59,509 --> 00:14:58,000
but anyways rainbow is very young and

378
00:15:00,949 --> 00:14:59,519
she's but she's been doing it for 40

379
00:15:03,189 --> 00:15:00,959
years but probably in a different

380
00:15:04,470 --> 00:15:03,199
lifetime also so that gives her that

381
00:15:06,550 --> 00:15:04,480
youngness

382
00:15:08,870 --> 00:15:06,560
but anyways uh

383
00:15:10,550 --> 00:15:08,880
so we have we have we have quite a bit

384
00:15:12,870 --> 00:15:10,560
of experience not only

385
00:15:15,670 --> 00:15:12,880
experience of actually doing it but also

386
00:15:18,310 --> 00:15:15,680
experience of researching it in in the

387
00:15:20,069 --> 00:15:18,320
field in some cases or you know going to

388
00:15:22,310 --> 00:15:20,079
books or libraries or things like that

389
00:15:23,350 --> 00:15:22,320
and getting a lot of a lot of research

390
00:15:25,509 --> 00:15:23,360
from that

391
00:15:26,870 --> 00:15:25,519
but but anyways

392
00:15:28,710 --> 00:15:26,880
it on the

393
00:15:30,710 --> 00:15:28,720
dimensional walking

394
00:15:33,189 --> 00:15:30,720
we if you look at it we probably have

395
00:15:35,829 --> 00:15:33,199
about um i'm maybe off by one or two but

396
00:15:37,910 --> 00:15:35,839
at least 118 videos on there

397
00:15:39,590 --> 00:15:37,920
almost all of those are from our

398
00:15:42,310 --> 00:15:39,600
personal research

399
00:15:44,710 --> 00:15:42,320
or our personal experience

400
00:15:47,269 --> 00:15:44,720
so we try to keep it that way we really

401
00:15:48,870 --> 00:15:47,279
typically do not uh have anybody else

402
00:15:52,550 --> 00:15:48,880
maybe someday we will but we don't

403
00:15:53,269 --> 00:15:52,560
interview anybody uh and you know uh

404
00:15:56,870 --> 00:15:53,279
so

405
00:15:58,870 --> 00:15:56,880
ufo yeah we won't no no not that we

406
00:16:01,509 --> 00:15:58,880
won't but we haven't up to this point so

407
00:16:03,430 --> 00:16:01,519
we'll see and we hopefully will yeah but

408
00:16:05,269 --> 00:16:03,440
you know we will have the ufos we'll

409
00:16:08,230 --> 00:16:05,279
have sasquatch we have all different

410
00:16:10,710 --> 00:16:08,240
other cryptids we'll have ghosts uh you

411
00:16:13,030 --> 00:16:10,720
know we have giants all kinds of stuff

412
00:16:14,790 --> 00:16:13,040
and one of the things we try to do

413
00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:14,800
is we try to connect the dots from a

414
00:16:17,670 --> 00:16:16,560
standpoint we like to like to tell

415
00:16:20,150 --> 00:16:17,680
everybody and

416
00:16:23,030 --> 00:16:20,160
let everybody realize it's all connected

417
00:16:25,590 --> 00:16:23,040
the world of paranormal all these little

418
00:16:27,189 --> 00:16:25,600
you know sub subtitles or sublets or

419
00:16:29,269 --> 00:16:27,199
whatever you want to call it are all

420
00:16:31,670 --> 00:16:29,279
together i mean they're all connected by

421
00:16:33,749 --> 00:16:31,680
a common a common thread

422
00:16:34,550 --> 00:16:33,759
and and that's what we try to do

423
00:16:36,389 --> 00:16:34,560
uh

424
00:16:37,990 --> 00:16:36,399
in some of our videos maybe not all of

425
00:16:39,670 --> 00:16:38,000
them but some of the videos we try to do

426
00:16:42,069 --> 00:16:39,680
that because we think it's really really

427
00:16:44,069 --> 00:16:42,079
important because once you step into it

428
00:16:45,749 --> 00:16:44,079
your foot into it you're probably gonna

429
00:16:47,829 --> 00:16:45,759
have you probably will have some other

430
00:16:49,509 --> 00:16:47,839
experiences that are unrelated like

431
00:16:51,670 --> 00:16:49,519
maybe if you saw you had a close

432
00:16:53,670 --> 00:16:51,680
encounter with a ufo or something like

433
00:16:55,189 --> 00:16:53,680
that now if you have a close encounter

434
00:16:58,550 --> 00:16:55,199
you've probably gone into a different

435
00:17:00,550 --> 00:16:58,560
realm uh so that way it's very possible

436
00:17:02,310 --> 00:17:00,560
you may suddenly start seeing ghosts or

437
00:17:04,630 --> 00:17:02,320
you you know you may see a cryptic a

438
00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:04,640
sasquatch or something else because it's

439
00:17:09,029 --> 00:17:07,120
so connected it really really is right

440
00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:09,039
did i answer the question for you yeah

441
00:17:14,549 --> 00:17:12,240
absolutely and it's a question

442
00:17:16,789 --> 00:17:14,559
it really you know that i think that's a

443
00:17:18,069 --> 00:17:16,799
huge that you you're nailing it you're

444
00:17:20,150 --> 00:17:18,079
knocking it out of the park because

445
00:17:21,110 --> 00:17:20,160
that's kind of where i was going to go

446
00:17:23,909 --> 00:17:21,120
with this

447
00:17:26,710 --> 00:17:23,919
is how a shift happens a shift takes

448
00:17:29,190 --> 00:17:26,720
place when you view as an observer when

449
00:17:31,990 --> 00:17:29,200
you see one of these things it sort of

450
00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:32,000
opens your mind and your eyes to being

451
00:17:35,669 --> 00:17:34,480
able to see more of it have you noticed

452
00:17:38,070 --> 00:17:35,679
that yes

453
00:17:40,390 --> 00:17:38,080
oh absolutely i think that i i think

454
00:17:42,950 --> 00:17:40,400
that we're born to to see it i think we

455
00:17:45,029 --> 00:17:42,960
forget that i i don't

456
00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:45,039
i look at it a little bit differently

457
00:17:49,029 --> 00:17:47,520
than michael um because i've dealt with

458
00:17:50,789 --> 00:17:49,039
this

459
00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:50,799
since i was a child and i think it has

460
00:17:56,070 --> 00:17:53,600
to do with one particular

461
00:17:58,710 --> 00:17:56,080
alien that used to be my little

462
00:18:01,510 --> 00:17:58,720
companion his name was meek mohan and

463
00:18:03,669 --> 00:18:01,520
from when i i remember is that meek

464
00:18:04,870 --> 00:18:03,679
mohan basically told me

465
00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:04,880
that

466
00:18:08,310 --> 00:18:06,960
we're just there's just so

467
00:18:10,630 --> 00:18:08,320
the reason why they love children is

468
00:18:12,710 --> 00:18:10,640
because we're just so open to all of it

469
00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:12,720
we're just we're just like right there

470
00:18:17,270 --> 00:18:15,120
and i think that we forget that as we

471
00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:17,280
get older we close off to

472
00:18:21,909 --> 00:18:19,440
these shifts that you that like you were

473
00:18:23,909 --> 00:18:21,919
stating and so i think that

474
00:18:25,590 --> 00:18:23,919
that at a certain point some of us don't

475
00:18:27,750 --> 00:18:25,600
ever close off

476
00:18:29,270 --> 00:18:27,760
and it's because there's especially when

477
00:18:31,350 --> 00:18:29,280
the paranormal

478
00:18:33,669 --> 00:18:31,360
is a part of your life because i think

479
00:18:35,430 --> 00:18:33,679
people believe the paranormal and

480
00:18:38,470 --> 00:18:35,440
everything that happens to it is outside

481
00:18:40,630 --> 00:18:38,480
of us but it's also inside of us too

482
00:18:42,789 --> 00:18:40,640
and so the attraction isn't just what's

483
00:18:44,470 --> 00:18:42,799
out there it's also discovering what's

484
00:18:46,150 --> 00:18:44,480
inside you

485
00:18:49,029 --> 00:18:46,160
mm-hmm

486
00:18:50,230 --> 00:18:49,039
that that makes perfect sense and

487
00:18:53,430 --> 00:18:50,240
you know

488
00:18:55,110 --> 00:18:53,440
i have taken part in retreats that have

489
00:18:56,470 --> 00:18:55,120
sort of focused you know some of them

490
00:18:58,950 --> 00:18:56,480
are shorter

491
00:19:01,909 --> 00:18:58,960
others can be as long as you know these

492
00:19:04,070 --> 00:19:01,919
five night uh ceremonies

493
00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:04,080
and you know with sweat lodges and medic

494
00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:06,720
ceremonies and you know it does seem

495
00:19:14,230 --> 00:19:10,080
that as time gathers and as time goes on

496
00:19:16,630 --> 00:19:14,240
even the skeptics begin

497
00:19:18,710 --> 00:19:16,640
they begin to

498
00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:18,720
give descriptions of things that can

499
00:19:22,710 --> 00:19:21,600
positively be described as paranormal

500
00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:22,720
and

501
00:19:26,789 --> 00:19:24,480
it is i think there's different

502
00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:26,799
procedures obviously that people take to

503
00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:28,960
do this but i mean the first obvious

504
00:19:32,870 --> 00:19:31,200
step is a lot of people just stay home

505
00:19:35,909 --> 00:19:32,880
on their couches watching tv and they

506
00:19:38,070 --> 00:19:35,919
don't get out there like you guys do

507
00:19:40,950 --> 00:19:38,080
it's it's what would you tell listeners

508
00:19:42,549 --> 00:19:40,960
is a good way to just kind of start um

509
00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:42,559
opening your minds to seeing some of

510
00:19:47,110 --> 00:19:44,640
these things

511
00:19:48,150 --> 00:19:47,120
well you know for for me basically would

512
00:19:50,150 --> 00:19:48,160
be

513
00:19:52,310 --> 00:19:50,160
one thing is get out in nature you know

514
00:19:53,190 --> 00:19:52,320
just getting out in nature and maybe

515
00:19:55,350 --> 00:19:53,200
sitting

516
00:19:56,789 --> 00:19:55,360
someplace and i always say

517
00:19:58,070 --> 00:19:56,799
find a place

518
00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:58,080
if you're going to go out in nature you

519
00:20:00,470 --> 00:19:59,280
want to have a quiet place you don't

520
00:20:01,830 --> 00:20:00,480
want to have a lot of human beings

521
00:20:03,909 --> 00:20:01,840
around for sure

522
00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:03,919
and then i always say

523
00:20:07,430 --> 00:20:06,000
make sure there's a stream close by

524
00:20:10,870 --> 00:20:07,440
that's really important especially for

525
00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:10,880
cryptids and weep things like that and

526
00:20:14,710 --> 00:20:13,600
and go to that same spot a quiet place

527
00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:14,720
again

528
00:20:19,029 --> 00:20:16,799
sit on the ground with your your feet

529
00:20:21,270 --> 00:20:19,039
kind of implanted in the earth and

530
00:20:23,270 --> 00:20:21,280
basically just wait and if you're a

531
00:20:24,549 --> 00:20:23,280
meditator of course that's that would be

532
00:20:25,990 --> 00:20:24,559
another one of the things i always tell

533
00:20:27,669 --> 00:20:26,000
you meditation

534
00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:27,679
uh is really a good way to make

535
00:20:30,870 --> 00:20:28,799
connections

536
00:20:32,789 --> 00:20:30,880
with the the other realms in the other

537
00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:32,799
worlds but even while you're sitting

538
00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:34,640
there at the little stream bank

539
00:20:38,310 --> 00:20:36,480
somewheres you want to kind of clear

540
00:20:41,110 --> 00:20:38,320
your mind is absolutely as clear as

541
00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:41,120
possible and ask for commission

542
00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:43,919
of nature and whatever's in the vicinity

543
00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:44,720
to

544
00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:47,120
come in and communicate with you is

545
00:20:51,830 --> 00:20:49,760
sometimes it takes quite a bit of time

546
00:20:54,149 --> 00:20:51,840
you have to be committed to go back

547
00:20:55,029 --> 00:20:54,159
there on a regular basis

548
00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:55,039
and

549
00:20:58,310 --> 00:20:56,000
wait

550
00:20:59,990 --> 00:20:58,320
basically and it they will come

551
00:21:02,070 --> 00:21:00,000
i don't know which ones will come but

552
00:21:04,470 --> 00:21:02,080
they will come to me that that is

553
00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:04,480
probably the number one thing to do i

554
00:21:08,470 --> 00:21:06,240
really believe that you meditating at

555
00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:08,480
home could also you could also bring

556
00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:10,880
some ets or something like that to you

557
00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:12,880
again you know rainbow can talk about

558
00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:15,200
maybe a little bit of protection that

559
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:16,720
she should always have because open

560
00:21:20,149 --> 00:21:18,400
yourself up too much

561
00:21:22,710 --> 00:21:20,159
you know like maybe a ouija board type

562
00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:22,720
example is really really very dangerous

563
00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:25,600
well go ahead rainbow why i think that

564
00:21:30,470 --> 00:21:27,520
for me the first step is to be open to

565
00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:30,480
it because a lot of people try to make

566
00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:32,159
it much more difficult than it needs to

567
00:21:36,310 --> 00:21:33,120
be

568
00:21:38,950 --> 00:21:36,320
um personally for me if i'm open to it i

569
00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:38,960
don't have to leave our home

570
00:21:42,310 --> 00:21:40,480
um i don't have to leave the the front

571
00:21:46,149 --> 00:21:42,320
or backyard i can actually have it

572
00:21:47,830 --> 00:21:46,159
happen here i think what's good it's

573
00:21:50,789 --> 00:21:47,840
good for people to get away from

574
00:21:52,950 --> 00:21:50,799
something that is structured

575
00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:52,960
and to get get out like michael was

576
00:21:59,430 --> 00:21:56,159
saying and to be in nature because

577
00:22:01,909 --> 00:21:59,440
once we allow something to connect to us

578
00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:01,919
they will come because

579
00:22:07,350 --> 00:22:04,799
basically we are as far as i'm concerned

580
00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:07,360
a part of the paranormal and as much as

581
00:22:12,789 --> 00:22:09,919
we try to figure out who they are and

582
00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:12,799
whoever they is and it can be sasquatch

583
00:22:16,870 --> 00:22:15,200
it can be dog man it could be a shadow

584
00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:16,880
man it can be

585
00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:19,039
skin walker it can be

586
00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:20,000
your

587
00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:24,480
anything but the one thing they're

588
00:22:28,630 --> 00:22:27,120
they're looking at us as much as we we

589
00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:28,640
are are trying to figure out who they

590
00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:30,080
are they're trying to figure out who we

591
00:22:33,750 --> 00:22:30,799
are

592
00:22:35,110 --> 00:22:33,760
so it's not a one-sided situation here

593
00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:35,120
so i think if you're open to

594
00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:36,559
communication what you have to

595
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:38,320
understand is there's a responsibility

596
00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:39,360
to that

597
00:22:43,990 --> 00:22:41,360
you can't be kind of

598
00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:44,000
you can't ask for something to contact

599
00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:46,000
you and then go scream and run off when

600
00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:47,120
it does

601
00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:48,480
um that and that's what you've seen a

602
00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:50,000
lot of the different shows that happen

603
00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:53,120
today people go out for the scare factor

604
00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:55,840
and they affect the paranormal

605
00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:57,919
and the paranormal i think to this day

606
00:23:02,710 --> 00:23:00,559
is being affected by how people react to

607
00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:02,720
it and it makes it harder

608
00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:05,200
in some senses for people like

609
00:23:07,909 --> 00:23:06,240
like us

610
00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:07,919
when we go out there asking for

611
00:23:13,510 --> 00:23:10,480
communication you know just imagine if

612
00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:13,520
you go ask for communication and

613
00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:16,320
um and you go screaming that whatever is

614
00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:18,480
there if it's been dealing with humans

615
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:20,880
you know like 10 20 whatever research

616
00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:22,559
groups coming out there

617
00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:24,240
it's not going to be very friendly after

618
00:23:28,390 --> 00:23:26,000
that so

619
00:23:30,549 --> 00:23:28,400
how we we have relationships with the

620
00:23:33,270 --> 00:23:30,559
paranormal with whatever's in there

621
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:33,280
affects everybody and i think people

622
00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:35,520
have to understand that once you're open

623
00:23:40,230 --> 00:23:37,440
to it and you're willing to be open to

624
00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:40,240
it there's a responsibility to it and

625
00:23:45,269 --> 00:23:43,120
then at that point you have to do safety

626
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:45,279
protocols you have to make sure you put

627
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:47,760
down your the line in the sand as far as

628
00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:49,679
what you will accept and what you won't

629
00:23:54,390 --> 00:23:51,360
a lot of people don't understand they

630
00:23:57,430 --> 00:23:54,400
can do that because i truly believe

631
00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:57,440
we being born on this planet we have

632
00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:00,400
that divine resonance here because we we

633
00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:03,200
have the earth's frequency in our bodies

634
00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:05,919
so that means that we have our right to

635
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:08,159
be here something else is visiting it's

636
00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:10,320
got to ask for permission but i think we

637
00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:12,880
can have a good relationship with

638
00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:14,080
everything

639
00:24:18,070 --> 00:24:16,400
we just have to be smart about it and i

640
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:18,080
think that there's something negative

641
00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:20,000
out there you want to keep that away but

642
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:22,320
you have to sense what it is and i think

643
00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:24,640
our empathic abilities that we were

644
00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:26,159
grown up with

645
00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:28,080
that we kind of closed off to just

646
00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:30,240
reopen them again and that's another way

647
00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:33,520
you can actually help protect yourself

648
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:36,320
rainbow that is awesome and you said the

649
00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:38,240
magic word you uh

650
00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:41,039
you you were just talking about it

651
00:24:47,110 --> 00:24:44,000
um the witchery way and where animals

652
00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:47,120
and i mean there's a major dividing line

653
00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:50,240
between uh you know just being open to

654
00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:51,440
these things

655
00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:56,400
and um where it is taken by you know

656
00:25:01,110 --> 00:24:57,679
let's just say

657
00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:01,120
witchery sorcery or wizardry especially

658
00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:03,760
in these southwestern areas

659
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:05,440
and um

660
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:07,760
you've had some experiences with these

661
00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:09,520
with the witchery way and wear animals

662
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:11,120
and you've seen some sightings of shape

663
00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:13,200
shifters correct

664
00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:15,600
oh yeah um when i was studying to be a

665
00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:17,600
medicine woman um

666
00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:19,360
i dealt with

667
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:20,240
uh

668
00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:21,360
two

669
00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:23,600
different types of witches

670
00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:24,799
um and then

671
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:29,120
after um when i was i was a dancer

672
00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:32,320
and then i actually had a really

673
00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:34,799
negative experience with a persian witch

674
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:35,919
and

675
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:44,640
there's a very big difference between

676
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:47,760
to me this to me a shape shifter a

677
00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:50,880
skinwalker and a dark shaman or witch

678
00:25:54,149 --> 00:25:53,200
so there's i've had experiences with all

679
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:54,159
of them

680
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:57,279
um and and each one showed elements that

681
00:26:02,390 --> 00:25:59,919
were a little bit different so i i

682
00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:02,400
understood kind of through

683
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:03,919
trial and error

684
00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:06,720
how to deal with these types of

685
00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:10,559
of this it's a crazy mindset

686
00:26:16,149 --> 00:26:12,799
um each one has

687
00:26:18,149 --> 00:26:16,159
and very very dangerous there's there's

688
00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:18,159
don't think that a witch is any less

689
00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:20,080
dangerous than a skinwalker because it's

690
00:26:23,430 --> 00:26:21,440
just not true

691
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:23,440
so they all have dangerous elements to

692
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:26,720
them you just have to figure out how to

693
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:28,640
keep up your protection and just deal

694
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:31,200
with the situation

695
00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:34,480
yeah and it reminds me of a saying i

696
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:37,120
heard and it made a lot of sense at the

697
00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:38,480
time and that is

698
00:26:42,710 --> 00:26:40,720
all skin walkers are witches but not all

699
00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:42,720
witches are skin walkers

700
00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:43,840
and

701
00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:46,720
you know this um it's it's fascinating

702
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:48,720
to me absolutely fascinating when you

703
00:26:53,590 --> 00:26:50,000
study

704
00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:53,600
into the all the cultural like where it

705
00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:55,520
all came from you know

706
00:26:59,669 --> 00:26:57,440
um how it's believed that witchery

707
00:27:01,590 --> 00:26:59,679
started under the ground and first man

708
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:01,600
and first woman and coyote these three

709
00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:02,880
started it and

710
00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:06,080
how after everybody got above ground i

711
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:08,400
guess first woman gave it out and

712
00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:10,080
there's a lot of snake worship that's

713
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:11,440
involved too

714
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:12,400
and

715
00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:14,720
there are animals that

716
00:27:19,110 --> 00:27:17,360
traditionally speaking native americans

717
00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:19,120
when they see these animals and if they

718
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:21,279
look at all out of place

719
00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:23,520
that's a hint to kind of watch your back

720
00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:25,440
isn't it

721
00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:28,799
yes yes it definitely is

722
00:27:32,830 --> 00:27:30,640
i think that

723
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:32,840
specific

724
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:35,440
elementals take on

725
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:38,159
um lemay shape-shift they can take on a

726
00:27:42,149 --> 00:27:40,480
form of an animal and i don't think that

727
00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:42,159
everything that that

728
00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:45,039
people see in the forest is actually

729
00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:47,440
that particular animal i don't think

730
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:49,600
that it has to be

731
00:27:54,149 --> 00:27:52,080
something that is human

732
00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:54,159
that is going to be that animal i think

733
00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:57,039
that michael and i understand the forest

734
00:28:01,430 --> 00:27:59,360
or anywhere where there's nature that

735
00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:01,440
there's elementals out there

736
00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:04,399
there's there's the shadowy aspect of

737
00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:06,159
the forest where

738
00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:08,000
these different entities can come out

739
00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:09,679
and actually shape shift

740
00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:12,320
and and they can form into something

741
00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:13,840
that looks bizarre i mean there's people

742
00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:16,720
who said they've seen deer

743
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:19,200
that actually walk on two legs and i

744
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:21,360
don't think it's necessarily has to do

745
00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:23,200
with any dark

746
00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:24,799
like scary

747
00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:25,840
um

748
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:31,679
concept is concerned i think it's

749
00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:34,480
elemental as well i think we we forget

750
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:37,520
that in the force that the fairy folk

751
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:39,520
the we people all those groups of people

752
00:28:44,549 --> 00:28:42,240
you know those those beings live there

753
00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:44,559
and so the native americans have

754
00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:46,399
totally got this

755
00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:49,120
they've never lost the idea that we

756
00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:50,799
share the forest

757
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:52,480
and so sometimes we come across

758
00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:54,080
something that doesn't look right and

759
00:28:57,830 --> 00:28:55,600
everybody's always saying oh it's a

760
00:29:01,430 --> 00:28:57,840
demon oh it's negative oh it's scary

761
00:29:03,269 --> 00:29:01,440
well it might be an elemental trying to

762
00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:03,279
shape shift into something that looks

763
00:29:07,590 --> 00:29:05,440
familiar to us because we're looking at

764
00:29:09,909 --> 00:29:07,600
a library of what's familiar

765
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:09,919
and then is trying to get away from us

766
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:12,880
and i always noticed that when people do

767
00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:13,840
see

768
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:17,919
animals that are acting strange and

769
00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:20,480
weird they're always thinking of

770
00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:22,320
it being something negative and scary

771
00:29:25,510 --> 00:29:23,520
and bad

772
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:25,520
but maybe it just might be the

773
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:28,080
elementals in the forest you know just

774
00:29:32,149 --> 00:29:30,000
doing their thing trying to not be so

775
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:32,159
scary for us because i think

776
00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:34,080
sometimes if they showed what they

777
00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:35,760
really look like

778
00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:38,000
it could be pretty scary

779
00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:40,880
yes and i i'm really glad that you've

780
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:44,159
kind of touched on the basic like truths

781
00:29:49,510 --> 00:29:47,600
of a very complex system and it's so

782
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:49,520
important to get that protection like

783
00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:51,600
mike and yourself were talking about a

784
00:29:57,350 --> 00:29:54,399
lot of people will go out and not have

785
00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:57,360
any kind of let's just call it spiritual

786
00:30:02,549 --> 00:29:59,679
protection whatever that may be

787
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:02,559
and some of these things are tricksters

788
00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:04,480
and they mimic uh

789
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:05,840
things that

790
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:07,440
as you mentioned

791
00:30:10,230 --> 00:30:08,480
and

792
00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:10,240
even though you go out with the idea

793
00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:12,240
that these are friends and they all

794
00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:14,720
should be friends you always have to be

795
00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:17,919
protected and um let's talk about what's

796
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:19,919
known as the hitchhiker

797
00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:22,080
effect or you know when you bring some

798
00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:25,039
of this bad energy home with you have

799
00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:27,200
you ever had any cases or heard of any

800
00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:29,279
cases of this happening and what could

801
00:30:34,149 --> 00:30:32,159
you tell listeners about that

802
00:30:35,269 --> 00:30:34,159
let me let me kind of set this one up a

803
00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:35,279
little bit and

804
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:37,919
will finish the end of it oh great

805
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:40,880
when we're uh when we lived in utah we i

806
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:42,960
lived in utah twice rainbow lived in it

807
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:46,320
once with me we lived in sandy utah

808
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:48,960
and so we did a lot of exploring we did

809
00:30:54,070 --> 00:30:51,120
quite a few videos on our experiences we

810
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:54,080
had in utah because we really

811
00:30:57,509 --> 00:30:55,440
really thought utah was pretty

812
00:30:59,669 --> 00:30:57,519
incredible as far as the paranormal goes

813
00:31:01,990 --> 00:30:59,679
and just the sheer beauty of utah is

814
00:31:03,669 --> 00:31:02,000
pretty incredible right so of course we

815
00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:03,679
always were interested in skinwalker

816
00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:05,440
ranch okay

817
00:31:10,870 --> 00:31:08,880
so we did a um

818
00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:10,880
a little expedition a day a kind of a

819
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:12,880
day trip it was and we didn't live that

820
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:14,240
far away

821
00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:15,840
ryan as you probably know i don't know

822
00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:17,919
sandy was probably what maybe a couple

823
00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:19,360
hours or so i don't quite remember

824
00:31:23,509 --> 00:31:20,960
exactly how long it took us to get there

825
00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:23,519
but that could probably be correct

826
00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:26,080
anyway so we went to skinwalker ranch

827
00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:28,000
and and of course we we couldn't get

828
00:31:33,269 --> 00:31:30,240
inside of course at that time i'm not

829
00:31:36,950 --> 00:31:33,279
sure who controlled it i think it was

830
00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:36,960
admits was it knits i think uh well no i

831
00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:38,799
think at that point bigelow still owned

832
00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:41,039
it but it it was just before he sold it

833
00:31:45,509 --> 00:31:43,440
to the new owner okay

834
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:45,519
right right i think this was right this

835
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:47,200
was um

836
00:31:51,029 --> 00:31:49,440
what year would it have been like seven

837
00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:51,039
years ago six seven years ago i think it

838
00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:53,600
would have been about 2015

839
00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:55,519
yeah something like that maybe 14 ish

840
00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:58,399
yeah but but anyway so we went out there

841
00:32:01,669 --> 00:32:00,399
so we hung out basically at the front

842
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:01,679
gate which i'm sure you know what i'm

843
00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:04,080
talking about ryan mm-hmm and and it had

844
00:32:07,669 --> 00:32:05,679
you know i had the camera oh there's a

845
00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:07,679
camera camera is everywhere it's right

846
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:08,799
and they're angled right at you and

847
00:32:12,149 --> 00:32:10,240
they're turning right they're turning

848
00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:12,159
it's uh uh pretty crazy and we're waving

849
00:32:16,549 --> 00:32:14,159
at him and you know doing things nice to

850
00:32:18,549 --> 00:32:16,559
him and as soon as we're standing there

851
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:18,559
and of course we had this really rainbow

852
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:20,240
had this incredible experience and we

853
00:32:24,549 --> 00:32:22,320
don't know if it's a tiny little drone

854
00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:24,559
that was a dragonfly or what but it was

855
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:26,320
incredible because this drone yeah if

856
00:32:29,350 --> 00:32:27,760
they find me

857
00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:29,360
yeah it stayed by her and it was like in

858
00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:30,960
her face almost like it was trying to

859
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:32,799
communicate with her it was that was

860
00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:35,279
just in itself if nothing else happened

861
00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:37,519
that would have been quite incredible

862
00:32:43,029 --> 00:32:39,519
so the other thing rainbow did being an

863
00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:43,039
empath as she is she observed the area

864
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:44,960
and tried it was picky try to pick up

865
00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:47,039
where the vortexes were correct but

866
00:32:50,710 --> 00:32:48,720
don't forget we did protection before we

867
00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:50,720
went yes okay okay this yeah it is

868
00:32:54,549 --> 00:32:52,559
important for the rest of the story to

869
00:32:57,029 --> 00:32:54,559
let you know we did protection we did

870
00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:57,039
sagebrush i'd say sagebrush we saged

871
00:33:01,110 --> 00:32:59,200
ourselves right he did me i did him

872
00:33:02,389 --> 00:33:01,120
right yeah that's sort of important

873
00:33:04,070 --> 00:33:02,399
because we just want to let you know it

874
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:04,080
doesn't always work so well

875
00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:06,480
so anyways we we got there and we spent

876
00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:08,000
quite a bit of time there a couple hours

877
00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:11,840
at least i think and so we were

878
00:33:16,389 --> 00:33:14,159
absorbing it rainbow got some readings

879
00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:16,399
out there on the property

880
00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:19,679
got information she she really did know

881
00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:22,159
which turned out to be where a vortex

882
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:23,200
was

883
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:24,880
uh well

884
00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:26,880
and i i the story becomes a little

885
00:33:30,070 --> 00:33:28,880
longer because i i ended up talking to

886
00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:30,080
uh what what's

887
00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:32,480
you know the guy that owns it now i

888
00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:34,720
cannot communicate with him and and

889
00:33:38,789 --> 00:33:36,480
i guess it was his son that got back to

890
00:33:41,430 --> 00:33:38,799
me and sort of confirmed that wherever

891
00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:41,440
rambo said the vortex was actually could

892
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:44,000
be the location what they had found out

893
00:33:48,310 --> 00:33:46,480
through the tv series etc so it was

894
00:33:50,470 --> 00:33:48,320
pretty i thought maybe that would open

895
00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:50,480
the door for us to go up there and go on

896
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:52,320
the property but it really didn't for

897
00:33:56,230 --> 00:33:54,399
whatever the reasons it's fine

898
00:33:58,070 --> 00:33:56,240
but the whole thing about it so so that

899
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:58,080
was a couple hours we absorbed a week

900
00:34:03,269 --> 00:34:00,720
you know nothing major happened to us at

901
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:03,279
that point but then i was disappointed i

902
00:34:06,389 --> 00:34:05,120
will say that well yeah i was expecting

903
00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:06,399
i don't know what i was expecting but

904
00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:08,079
something more yeah but then we could

905
00:34:11,669 --> 00:34:10,000
definitely feel the energy i felt the

906
00:34:13,909 --> 00:34:11,679
energy was there so

907
00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:13,919
you know uh yeah i thought i thought it

908
00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:16,000
was pretty cool so anyway so we go back

909
00:34:19,030 --> 00:34:17,359
home right

910
00:34:20,710 --> 00:34:19,040
and this is this is where i'm gonna let

911
00:34:23,109 --> 00:34:20,720
i'm gonna let rainbow take over because

912
00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:23,119
this is more a little bit of her world

913
00:34:27,829 --> 00:34:25,280
than it was mine so go ahead rainbow so

914
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:27,839
if you before we um actually

915
00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:29,760
finished the drive home michael pulled

916
00:34:35,349 --> 00:34:32,639
over and we staged each other again

917
00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:35,359
um and and that that was just to make

918
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:36,960
sure that you know we didn't bring

919
00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:39,520
anything back home with us which is

920
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:41,599
really funny because

921
00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:44,960
the paranormal isn't you know bound by

922
00:34:49,669 --> 00:34:47,599
you know gates and and fences and you

923
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:49,679
know it's just you know it's it's going

924
00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:51,280
to be wherever it's going to be

925
00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:54,480
and so we get home michael pulls into

926
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:56,800
the garage and i hear two distinct

927
00:35:00,829 --> 00:34:59,040
voices one says

928
00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:00,839
hello i am

929
00:35:06,150 --> 00:35:03,359
amadeus and the other one says

930
00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:06,160
i am antioch and it's very you know very

931
00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:08,640
stern and i'm like i'm looking around

932
00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:10,480
thinking michael's punching me right

933
00:35:14,710 --> 00:35:12,480
michael saying something to me i'm like

934
00:35:16,230 --> 00:35:14,720
i said michaels i just heard two voices

935
00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:16,240
and he's like and he's not surprised

936
00:35:19,430 --> 00:35:18,079
because he at this point he's gotten to

937
00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:19,440
know me

938
00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:21,040
and said something i think something

939
00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:23,760
follows back home and so as you know

940
00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:25,760
ryan that's the one thing that happens

941
00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:27,760
at skinwalker ranch

942
00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:29,200
all these these

943
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:31,440
people have experiences where these

944
00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:34,000
entities and beings follow you home

945
00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:35,520
so it doesn't matter how much you know

946
00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:37,359
what whatever you try to do if they're

947
00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:38,400
curious about you they're going to

948
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:40,160
follow you home so

949
00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:42,400
you know i'm like wow i think we were

950
00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:43,760
followed home and that's a little

951
00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:45,440
disconcerting in a way because you're

952
00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:46,800
thinking yeah you did all this

953
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:48,960
protection and stuff and and i think we

954
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:51,119
you know we we kind of set the boundary

955
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:52,320
there but

956
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:54,160
anyway so

957
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:55,680
i tell mike he's like oh interesting

958
00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:57,359
let's just see what happens and so then

959
00:36:03,270 --> 00:35:59,599
we started having all this

960
00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:03,280
poltergeist activity happening and so

961
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:07,680
amadeus is an er which explains to me

962
00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:08,640
um

963
00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:09,440
who

964
00:36:15,589 --> 00:36:13,839
like the new pronouns now it would it's

965
00:36:19,109 --> 00:36:15,599
a they because

966
00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:19,119
amadeus is a male and a female

967
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:21,760
and amadeus is a

968
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:24,560
holds down and is is actually

969
00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:27,119
part of the vortex at skinwalker ranch

970
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:28,400
and i know people are going to think

971
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:29,520
it's nuts

972
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:32,480
but that's what it told me and i saw

973
00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:34,800
amadeus i saw what amadeus looks like

974
00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:37,280
and m days is just beautiful all all

975
00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:38,640
energy

976
00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:41,599
in a form of a human body

977
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:44,000
now antioch is a gin

978
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:45,119
and

979
00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:47,520
antioch was the one i was concerned with

980
00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:49,599
because

981
00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:51,839
antioch made it clear he doesn't like

982
00:36:55,750 --> 00:36:53,119
humans but

983
00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:55,760
he they were curious because they knew

984
00:37:00,150 --> 00:36:57,760
that i picked up on stuff and when

985
00:37:01,030 --> 00:37:00,160
you're empathic things no these beings

986
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:01,040
know

987
00:37:07,030 --> 00:37:04,320
and so i ended up drawing antioch and i

988
00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:07,040
ended up drawing amadeus

989
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:09,200
and you know i've shown michael kind of

990
00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:11,200
and i did it like a you know

991
00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:13,760
antioch kind of looks a little bit

992
00:37:19,109 --> 00:37:15,280
more he's

993
00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:19,119
more like a like a mad max kind of

994
00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:20,880
character you know because he just has

995
00:37:24,790 --> 00:37:23,119
that that crazy look to him and he looks

996
00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:24,800
like a gin as well

997
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:26,720
um amadeus just has all this energy

998
00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:29,280
coming from them so that's

999
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:31,280
so it was pretty cool to see what they

1000
00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:33,520
look like but antioch wanted to talk to

1001
00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:36,240
me and i told antioch no i don't want to

1002
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:38,240
talk to i don't like humans you're i'm a

1003
00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:39,119
human

1004
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:41,040
and you're probably going to be mean to

1005
00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:43,440
me and because i wouldn't talk to

1006
00:37:46,390 --> 00:37:44,720
antioch

1007
00:37:47,829 --> 00:37:46,400
poltergeist activity started happening

1008
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:47,839
in the house

1009
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:48,800
and so

1010
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:51,280
antioch liked uh the katina dolls that i

1011
00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:53,520
have he would turn them around

1012
00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:55,280
and then i would turn them back and then

1013
00:37:57,510 --> 00:37:56,640
you know they would be back the other

1014
00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:57,520
way

1015
00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:58,640
and then

1016
00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:00,400
the picture that i drew of him i put it

1017
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:02,400
away in a drawer and all of a sudden it

1018
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:04,640
would be on top of the printer and the

1019
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:06,560
printer would print itself print out

1020
00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:08,880
another copy of him yeah this this was

1021
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:10,560
just printing with a copy yeah yeah

1022
00:38:15,190 --> 00:38:13,200
really crazy you know and he does it at

1023
00:38:17,589 --> 00:38:15,200
like 11 30 at night when i'm you know

1024
00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:17,599
downstairs in the dark by myself and you

1025
00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:19,440
know it would scare the bajeebies out of

1026
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:21,680
me because also my printer would start

1027
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:23,680
and then there a picture of him would be

1028
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:25,760
and so i would take the you know the the

1029
00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:28,240
new print of his of the drawing and i

1030
00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:30,079
would just stick them into a file and

1031
00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:32,480
put him in a drawer and he was still his

1032
00:38:35,109 --> 00:38:34,160
pictures would still end up on the

1033
00:38:37,349 --> 00:38:35,119
printer

1034
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:37,359
and so this one night after he had done

1035
00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:38,800
that to me i'm like well i'm not going

1036
00:38:43,510 --> 00:38:40,560
to talk to you i'm just not going to do

1037
00:38:46,310 --> 00:38:43,520
it so i go michael's already in bed

1038
00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:46,320
i go in i take a shower and i'm thinking

1039
00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:48,480
about this in the shower and so i get

1040
00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:51,680
ready for bed i i just get into the bed

1041
00:38:57,670 --> 00:38:53,920
by my head down and

1042
00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:57,680
antioch had taken the shower caddy

1043
00:39:02,950 --> 00:39:00,960
um totally lifted it off the shower head

1044
00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:02,960
and the shower head is huge so it's one

1045
00:39:05,589 --> 00:39:03,839
of those

1046
00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:05,599
those caddies that has to be lifted up

1047
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:06,880
and off

1048
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:09,119
in order for it to fall off i mean it

1049
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:10,400
just can't do it by itself there's just

1050
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:12,880
no way and he took it and he threw it

1051
00:39:15,510 --> 00:39:14,720
and he threw it everything that was in

1052
00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:15,520
the

1053
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:20,240
jumped up everybody woke up

1054
00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:23,280
and so i just i had to uh i went into

1055
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:25,119
the shower and i saw what had happened

1056
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:26,800
and i i told michael i said like i'm

1057
00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:29,040
going to take care of this tomorrow

1058
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:30,480
i'm going to talk to antioch but i'm

1059
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:32,560
going to you know say

1060
00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:34,079
rules down

1061
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:36,560
so michael leaves the next day

1062
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:38,880
and i have a talk with antioch i said

1063
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:40,800
antioch you can't just do this i said

1064
00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:43,920
i'll listen to you but once you talk to

1065
00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:45,920
me it's over and done with you have to

1066
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:48,960
respect what i i tell you because i'm

1067
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:50,640
not going to keep doing this with you i

1068
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:52,640
because i have a

1069
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,640
true belief in the archangels and i will

1070
00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:56,880
ask them to protect me so you just need

1071
00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:57,680
to

1072
00:40:00,550 --> 00:39:58,800
be cool

1073
00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:00,560
so antioch gave me all this information

1074
00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:03,200
about what jyn are

1075
00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:04,079
and

1076
00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:06,000
i said great he wanted me to get the

1077
00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:08,480
word out and i said thank you very much

1078
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:09,599
and

1079
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:11,680
after he talked to me

1080
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:14,480
um i i put his his picture away and i

1081
00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:16,000
said this ends it

1082
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:18,560
we're done and so antioch actually

1083
00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:20,480
respected my wishes i know people are

1084
00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:22,160
going to think that's nuts

1085
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:25,520
but um you know i'm i'm i don't believe

1086
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:27,599
that word that

1087
00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:28,880
um

1088
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:32,800
that once we put our foot down that they

1089
00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:35,200
they will honor what we say um because a

1090
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:37,520
gin is not a demon and that was the main

1091
00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:39,760
core thing he wanted me to say to people

1092
00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:42,480
um i know in the middle east they

1093
00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:45,040
believe that jin are demons but

1094
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:47,359
antioch said that they are not

1095
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:49,200
you can take that for what it's worth

1096
00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:51,280
you know i don't know but anyway those

1097
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:53,599
are the two entities or beings that came

1098
00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:55,680
to us at the house

1099
00:41:02,309 --> 00:40:58,800
and um that came from walker ranch

1100
00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:02,319
fascinating it's so you know you are not

1101
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:04,160
crazy um

1102
00:41:10,230 --> 00:41:06,560
i can tell you that uh

1103
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:10,240
thank you ryan i'm speaking for rainbow

1104
00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:13,920
yeah we have a bit of a base camp um

1105
00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:16,000
there adjacent

1106
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:19,920
in the area known as space wolf research

1107
00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:21,040
and

1108
00:41:28,950 --> 00:41:26,240
independently obtained

1109
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:28,960
accounts from different informants

1110
00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:31,119
as far as some of the names places

1111
00:41:36,710 --> 00:41:33,599
sequence of events that you have just

1112
00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:36,720
shared is astonishing

1113
00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:38,880
there's i mean

1114
00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:41,440
the pattern modalities of

1115
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:43,760
something following you home trying to

1116
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:45,599
communicate

1117
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:47,760
basically kind of throwing a fit because

1118
00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:48,880
they can

1119
00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:51,440
and and you know it sounds like you

1120
00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:53,520
navigated this a lot better than most

1121
00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:54,800
people do

1122
00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:56,640
and it's probably because of your

1123
00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:57,839
knowledge

1124
00:42:01,589 --> 00:41:58,720
that

1125
00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:01,599
each

1126
00:42:07,109 --> 00:42:05,040
an extent

1127
00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:07,119
and i'm glad that you brought all this

1128
00:42:11,190 --> 00:42:08,640
up because

1129
00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:11,200
there are people that when they witness

1130
00:42:16,309 --> 00:42:13,839
many times many first-time observers uh

1131
00:42:19,589 --> 00:42:16,319
witnesses to these events when they

1132
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:19,599
first observe the power of some of these

1133
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:22,240
entities and precognitive sentient

1134
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:23,760
intelligences

1135
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:27,200
they automatically go to either demons

1136
00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:29,680
or angels you know they automatically

1137
00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:31,599
it's like they go to that

1138
00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:33,760
that setting it's got to be one or the

1139
00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:35,920
other of the extremes and i'm really

1140
00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:38,240
glad that you brought this up because

1141
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:41,200
there is a hierarchy of these things

1142
00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:43,920
and a lot of times it's in a gray area

1143
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:45,440
and um

1144
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:47,440
you have to remember that you can call

1145
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:49,680
upon things like archangels to protect

1146
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:52,240
you and that these things are not all

1147
00:42:57,750 --> 00:42:55,440
powerful and you know yeah they can flex

1148
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:57,760
their muscles so to speak from a

1149
00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:59,839
from an energetic perspective and i

1150
00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:01,920
agree with you a hundred percent

1151
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:05,040
that they love to engage with

1152
00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:08,640
electronics oh my gosh do they ever love

1153
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:10,640
to engage with electronics i love the

1154
00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:12,880
story about the printer

1155
00:43:20,150 --> 00:43:17,829
yeah they can manifest with those

1156
00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:20,160
the printer is a perfect example of how

1157
00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:22,000
they can manifest in electronics i think

1158
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:29,030
yeah did you notice that was pretty

1159
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:32,400
exciting and now um i i would love to

1160
00:43:37,109 --> 00:43:34,560
see these drawings as well at some point

1161
00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:37,119
maybe if we could figure that out but

1162
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:40,400
yeah there's there your references to

1163
00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:41,440
um

1164
00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:43,599
the insinuations of this possibly being

1165
00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:44,640
a gin

1166
00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:46,480
that that that goes right along the

1167
00:43:51,349 --> 00:43:49,839
lines of um you know what has been

1168
00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:51,359
coined by

1169
00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:53,280
colonel john alexander

1170
00:43:57,910 --> 00:43:54,800
who was there with the department of

1171
00:44:00,069 --> 00:43:57,920
defense in the area and he he could best

1172
00:44:01,910 --> 00:44:00,079
describe it as a pre-cognitive sentient

1173
00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:01,920
intelligence i didn't make that up i'm

1174
00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:04,319
i'm borrowing it from him it's his term

1175
00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:05,839
but it's

1176
00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:08,960
it's a good term because these things

1177
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:11,200
have abilities that people just don't

1178
00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:16,950
you're right and i i think that

1179
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:19,359
when something tries to

1180
00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:21,200
communicate with us

1181
00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:23,839
i i think that

1182
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:26,079
when we when we walk we'll limp to you

1183
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:27,440
this way when

1184
00:44:31,589 --> 00:44:29,520
when we first walk into a room and we

1185
00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:31,599
see people you know we don't always

1186
00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:33,520
assume the worst i mean we may see

1187
00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:34,800
somebody and we're like going oh well i

1188
00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:36,240
mean i'm not going to walk over that way

1189
00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:37,680
because i'm you know maybe you might get

1190
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:39,200
a feeling from them but when you walk

1191
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:41,359
into a room you don't always assume the

1192
00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:43,280
worst with people and i think when

1193
00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:46,000
you're in this field you cannot

1194
00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:49,040
do that either you cannot just go in

1195
00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:51,680
onto a ranch as we all know skinwalker

1196
00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:55,200
ranch and just assume the worst because

1197
00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:56,960
there's as you were stating different

1198
00:45:02,950 --> 00:44:59,359
shades of gray of the paranormal

1199
00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:02,960
and not everything is evil and horrible

1200
00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:05,280
and dark and wants to devour you and eat

1201
00:45:10,870 --> 00:45:06,160
you

1202
00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:10,880
wants to be left alone or it wants

1203
00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:12,560
communication with you

1204
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:14,480
and then the the good the you know the

1205
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:17,440
good aspects of of the ranch the the

1206
00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:19,920
interesting parts about that ranch

1207
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:22,800
are the the fact that i think that

1208
00:45:26,630 --> 00:45:24,400
and you were talking about it there's

1209
00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:26,640
magic that happens on skinwalker ranch

1210
00:45:32,230 --> 00:45:29,040
and i think it's been coined and it's

1211
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:32,240
been sold into this this genre of

1212
00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:36,000
something that's very scary and i think

1213
00:45:40,950 --> 00:45:38,960
as a medicine woman for me i want to go

1214
00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:40,960
first hand and see what this magic is

1215
00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:43,119
all about because i think

1216
00:45:48,069 --> 00:45:45,599
that what's happened on skinwalker ranch

1217
00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:48,079
is before the native americans that

1218
00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:51,920
vortex is a natural vortex it's one that

1219
00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:54,480
the aliens have known about for hundreds

1220
00:45:58,630 --> 00:45:56,079
of thousands of years

1221
00:46:01,030 --> 00:45:58,640
i think that they've used it

1222
00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:01,040
for longer than that probably because

1223
00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:03,280
they've known about it probably longer i

1224
00:46:08,710 --> 00:46:06,720
i just think it's it's something that if

1225
00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:08,720
if you're an alien intelligence you're

1226
00:46:14,230 --> 00:46:10,880
going to know where all these portals

1227
00:46:17,109 --> 00:46:14,240
are all over the world skinwalker ranch

1228
00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:17,119
happens to be one of those portals like

1229
00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:18,319
there's seven

1230
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:19,359
magic

1231
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:21,520
mountains in on the planet you know the

1232
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:24,000
taos mountain happens to be one of them

1233
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:26,880
and i i think that at skinwalker ranch

1234
00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:29,680
that is a bible

1235
00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:31,599
that's a very vital portal because i

1236
00:46:36,069 --> 00:46:33,440
think that's where a lot of major

1237
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:36,079
traffic goes and comes from and i don't

1238
00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:38,480
think it's just ufos i don't think it's

1239
00:46:40,870 --> 00:46:39,520
just

1240
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:40,880
unknown

1241
00:46:46,150 --> 00:46:43,520
aerial phenomena i think that entities

1242
00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:46,160
go back and forth through that i think

1243
00:46:49,829 --> 00:46:47,920
that's basically what these portals are

1244
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:49,839
for to make it a little bit easier i

1245
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:52,160
think that's why sasquatch is seen

1246
00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:54,160
around there because it's easier for saw

1247
00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:56,480
squash for the portal jumpers because we

1248
00:47:00,230 --> 00:46:58,240
have a a

1249
00:47:01,109 --> 00:47:00,240
sasquatch that has been in contact with

1250
00:47:02,230 --> 00:47:01,119
us

1251
00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:02,240
years ago

1252
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:04,800
loki who's a portal jumper

1253
00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:06,960
and so i i think i can understand why

1254
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:08,640
these portals are vital to this planet i

1255
00:47:13,109 --> 00:47:10,480
think they're the major arteries of the

1256
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:13,119
planet i think they're necessary for the

1257
00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:15,280
survival of this planet

1258
00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:17,760
yeah let me make a comment because i

1259
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:19,200
ryan as you know i do something called

1260
00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:21,280
vortex photography so

1261
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:23,440
uh one one of the things that i've

1262
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:25,920
always learned was there are some

1263
00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:28,880
vortexes or portals um that are

1264
00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:30,880
permanent i think i think the one at

1265
00:47:34,309 --> 00:47:32,559
skinwalker ranch is definitely a

1266
00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:34,319
permanent one now i've been the other

1267
00:47:39,349 --> 00:47:37,839
ones that move around okay they could be

1268
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:39,359
there one day they could be there three

1269
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:41,440
weeks from now but they will actually

1270
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:44,880
move i've been at another vortex up in

1271
00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:47,359
uh montana well no let me see that i'm

1272
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:49,680
sorry i went into montana i went back

1273
00:47:54,549 --> 00:47:53,040
into idaho a major vortex there that's

1274
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:54,559
been there probably for the same amount

1275
00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:56,160
of times and stuff

1276
00:48:00,470 --> 00:47:57,520
stuff would come and go through that

1277
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:00,480
vortex pretty amazing stuff and you know

1278
00:48:04,790 --> 00:48:02,640
ufos and and all the things rainbow

1279
00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:04,800
mentioned and and one thing i wanted to

1280
00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:07,599
add to ryan is that loki talked to me

1281
00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:09,680
about the traveling ghosts

1282
00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:12,480
and he said there's two i think they're

1283
00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:14,480
two to three i can't remember how many

1284
00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:18,800
um of these portals that are are

1285
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:22,240
sentient beings and they they travel

1286
00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:24,240
and i actually experienced one of them

1287
00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:25,920
when i was working cattle

1288
00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:28,880
in um the big bend part of texas we

1289
00:48:33,589 --> 00:48:31,119
actually had a stampede happen because

1290
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:33,599
one of these these portal

1291
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:35,760
portals and these intelligent portals

1292
00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:38,640
just and it was massive and i'm talking

1293
00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:40,800
i don't know how many while miles long

1294
00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:44,319
but it went over the the mexican stairs

1295
00:48:47,589 --> 00:48:45,520
and they just

1296
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:47,599
went for it they went nuts they just

1297
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:49,760
started running and we yeah it was it

1298
00:48:53,589 --> 00:48:51,040
was chaos

1299
00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:53,599
so um and i talked to loki about what

1300
00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:56,160
that was and he said that that they

1301
00:49:00,150 --> 00:48:58,640
called the the sasquatch called those

1302
00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:00,160
type of portals

1303
00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:02,720
the traveling ghosts so

1304
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:05,440
yeah good good interpret i mean that's a

1305
00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:06,960
good interpretation and i'm glad you

1306
00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:09,839
guys mentioned it being a permanent

1307
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:12,480
fixture and something that is kind of

1308
00:49:17,349 --> 00:49:15,280
used as a paranormal highway by a

1309
00:49:19,349 --> 00:49:17,359
variety of entities it's not just one

1310
00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:19,359
thing and that's the problem

1311
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:20,480
with many

1312
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:23,040
um i guess it's not a closed-minded

1313
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:24,880
belief but a lot of times people want

1314
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:28,319
closure and they want to to put things

1315
00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:30,880
in boxes and say this is because of that

1316
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:33,440
they're done now move on and when it

1317
00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:36,400
comes to these portals you can't do that

1318
00:49:39,430 --> 00:49:38,480
because you're literally it's it's like

1319
00:49:43,270 --> 00:49:39,440
you're

1320
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:43,280
watching a main artery of energy

1321
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:47,520
being utilized and you know it is being

1322
00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:48,720
perfectly

1323
00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:50,880
manifested by a variety of different

1324
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:52,079
entities

1325
00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:54,960
and um that they use this for various

1326
00:49:59,109 --> 00:49:56,240
reasons and

1327
00:50:01,430 --> 00:49:59,119
it's it's amazing i i remember a story

1328
00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:01,440
that i was told about a gentleman who

1329
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:04,000
was watching a portal open up

1330
00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:06,720
and as he was watching this portal open

1331
00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:09,680
up he looked to his right and saw what

1332
00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:12,720
appeared to be an alien gray also

1333
00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:15,040
watching the portal open up

1334
00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:16,160
and

1335
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:17,920
they kind of weren't paying attention to

1336
00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:19,520
each other and that just kind of drives

1337
00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:21,760
the point that there's there's multiple

1338
00:50:25,510 --> 00:50:23,680
things going on and whatever has your

1339
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:25,520
attention at the moment might not be the

1340
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:28,079
only thing going on

1341
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:29,680
right

1342
00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:32,240
that's interesting now

1343
00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:35,760
wow you have had uh some other family

1344
00:50:39,589 --> 00:50:36,800
members

1345
00:50:43,309 --> 00:50:39,599
who themselves have had

1346
00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:43,319
interesting stories and uh

1347
00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:46,319
experiences with

1348
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:48,640
paranormal uh

1349
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:52,079
things and i i i want to say was this in

1350
00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:55,440
new mexico was this correct mike

1351
00:51:00,950 --> 00:50:58,160
uh this is in arizona in arizona i

1352
00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:00,960
apologize always when we talk no uh was

1353
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:03,440
it camera tanya with the skinwalker that

1354
00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:06,640
was kim in arizona okay yeah yeah this

1355
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:08,800
particular one was in in arizona this is

1356
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:10,960
with one of my daughters

1357
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:12,000
so

1358
00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:14,640
here's here's how the story goes uh my

1359
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:16,480
daughter was with her her boyfriend and

1360
00:51:21,750 --> 00:51:19,200
they were we lived in tucson at the time

1361
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:21,760
and they were traveling south of tucson

1362
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:24,240
probably was about 10 or 15 miles

1363
00:51:28,390 --> 00:51:27,280
and they were off on kind of a dirt road

1364
00:51:31,349 --> 00:51:28,400
and

1365
00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:31,359
i guess they pull up to a stop sign

1366
00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:34,000
and my daughter obviously was not she

1367
00:51:39,190 --> 00:51:36,480
was in the passenger seat and she looked

1368
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:39,200
in her side view mirror could see kind

1369
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:42,079
of right next to the vehicle but back a

1370
00:51:46,710 --> 00:51:44,160
little ways and she saw what she

1371
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:46,720
initially perceived as a runner coming

1372
00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:49,119
towards her she couldn't really tell if

1373
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:51,760
it was a male or female at that time but

1374
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:53,200
it was it was a runner and she didn't

1375
00:51:57,750 --> 00:51:55,200
really give it much thought

1376
00:51:59,990 --> 00:51:57,760
uh i guess one of the things she sort of

1377
00:52:01,190 --> 00:52:00,000
i think she kind of had in her mind is

1378
00:52:03,910 --> 00:52:01,200
seemed to be

1379
00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:03,920
running quite fast but she said she

1380
00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:05,839
didn't really because when somebody runs

1381
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:07,680
directly at you or you see somebody

1382
00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:09,760
coming directly at you you can't really

1383
00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:11,920
easily judge the speed of it if you're

1384
00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:13,920
just visually looking at it

1385
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:16,480
so they're at this stop sign and

1386
00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:17,920
you know that was a lot of stuff from

1387
00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:19,359
just sitting at a stop sign but that's

1388
00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:21,359
sort of what was going through her head

1389
00:52:25,910 --> 00:52:23,440
and so they took they started off from

1390
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:25,920
the stuffs and this is like a rural area

1391
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:28,079
just so you know it's a dirt road so

1392
00:52:32,470 --> 00:52:30,160
she's they're driving and they're up to

1393
00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:32,480
about 30 miles an hour

1394
00:52:35,589 --> 00:52:34,240
and my my daughter just looked in the

1395
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:35,599
mirror

1396
00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:37,200
and this

1397
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:39,200
whatever it was i guess she thought it

1398
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:41,280
was a woman i i guess

1399
00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:43,680
was coming was gaining on them at 30

1400
00:52:47,430 --> 00:52:45,200
miles an hour now

1401
00:52:49,990 --> 00:52:47,440
i don't think if i remember quickly and

1402
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:50,000
i was a sprinter yeah no human can run

1403
00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:51,200
that fast

1404
00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:52,800
that can actually

1405
00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:55,599
uh run at 30 miles an hour

1406
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:56,720
um

1407
00:53:01,030 --> 00:52:59,040
so anyways this they were going about 30

1408
00:53:01,990 --> 00:53:01,040
and then they got up to 35 and all of a

1409
00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:02,000
sudden

1410
00:53:06,309 --> 00:53:04,160
whatever this was well we're gonna say

1411
00:53:08,069 --> 00:53:06,319
it was a woman at this point was right

1412
00:53:10,710 --> 00:53:08,079
next to them and they're still driving

1413
00:53:13,270 --> 00:53:10,720
at 35 miles an hour okay

1414
00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:13,280
and so this this entity

1415
00:53:16,549 --> 00:53:14,400
at this point we're gonna have to call

1416
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:16,559
it auntie because it was a human

1417
00:53:22,549 --> 00:53:17,680
was

1418
00:53:24,950 --> 00:53:22,559
at them okay and i believe the window

1419
00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:24,960
was down i think she had the window down

1420
00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:26,240
right

1421
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:29,359
so she got now now she gets this amazing

1422
00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:31,200
look at this this

1423
00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:32,400
whatever it was

1424
00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:34,880
so it's this truly i believe was his

1425
00:53:38,230 --> 00:53:36,000
skin

1426
00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:38,240
had long straggly hair

1427
00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:40,480
had kind of a gnarly looking

1428
00:53:44,549 --> 00:53:43,119
uh kind of a face or nose

1429
00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:44,559
uh

1430
00:53:48,549 --> 00:53:47,040
i guess kind of a sea haggy look if you

1431
00:53:51,589 --> 00:53:48,559
know what that means

1432
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:51,599
and strange almost black eyes now there

1433
00:53:55,589 --> 00:53:53,440
was some she did say there was some

1434
00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:55,599
white in it but it was a lot of dark

1435
00:53:58,950 --> 00:53:56,720
okay

1436
00:54:01,589 --> 00:53:58,960
and it's still looking forward right

1437
00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:01,599
but then suddenly like in a blink of an

1438
00:54:05,349 --> 00:54:04,160
eyelash it is looking at her

1439
00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:05,359
okay

1440
00:54:10,950 --> 00:54:08,000
completely almost wiped my daughter out

1441
00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:10,960
at this time now the driver didn't see

1442
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:12,880
too much of wellness okay that driver

1443
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:15,040
was focused although he did look over

1444
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:16,880
and did see it and then he was super

1445
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:18,640
focused on where he's going because he

1446
00:54:23,510 --> 00:54:20,720
wanted to get the heck out of there so

1447
00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:23,520
this this kept on running

1448
00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:25,680
this entity which is we're going to call

1449
00:54:29,990 --> 00:54:28,000
a skin marker descent kept on running

1450
00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:30,000
looking inside

1451
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:32,240
at the at my daughter

1452
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:34,319
almost incredible because we're talking

1453
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:36,960
i think they're up to let's say 35 40

1454
00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:38,880
maybe even 45 miles an hour i don't

1455
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:41,200
remember exactly what the ending the

1456
00:54:46,789 --> 00:54:44,000
ending uh speed what speed was it when

1457
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:46,799
they ended but she said suddenly

1458
00:54:50,829 --> 00:54:48,720
and this is well i'll tell you another

1459
00:54:53,109 --> 00:54:50,839
story a little bit

1460
00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:53,119
suddenly this

1461
00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:55,520
skin walker just went to the right just

1462
00:54:59,990 --> 00:54:57,920
completely blew to the right and she the

1463
00:55:01,430 --> 00:55:00,000
only thing they can think of it blew to

1464
00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:01,440
the right because they were coming onto

1465
00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:04,480
some residential areas some houses etc

1466
00:55:07,589 --> 00:55:05,920
and i don't think they wanted to get in

1467
00:55:09,990 --> 00:55:07,599
the middle of that at all

1468
00:55:11,670 --> 00:55:10,000
uh so it just blew to the right and you

1469
00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:11,680
know my daughter

1470
00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:13,920
somewhat remembers she told me the story

1471
00:55:18,309 --> 00:55:16,480
when we lived in uh tucson

1472
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:18,319
and then as time went on and we're

1473
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:20,400
talking this probably goes back to the

1474
00:55:24,549 --> 00:55:22,640
late 1990s

1475
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:24,559
her memory fades and it's almost like to

1476
00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:26,240
a certain extent someone remember it she

1477
00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:28,720
doesn't want to remember it yeah um

1478
00:55:32,549 --> 00:55:30,960
she had a then here's here's one that

1479
00:55:33,750 --> 00:55:32,559
connects a little bit more my all my

1480
00:55:35,589 --> 00:55:33,760
daughters have had some pretty

1481
00:55:37,829 --> 00:55:35,599
interesting experiences but one of the

1482
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:37,839
videos i did was also another experience

1483
00:55:40,710 --> 00:55:39,440
for the same daughter

1484
00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:40,720
and i'm not gonna we're not going to go

1485
00:55:43,430 --> 00:55:41,839
into it because it was a pretty long

1486
00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:43,440
story but she had a very similar

1487
00:55:48,789 --> 00:55:46,319
experience driving through uh i believe

1488
00:55:51,349 --> 00:55:48,799
was wyoming on the interstate

1489
00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:51,359
and uh it was an incredible story where

1490
00:55:54,069 --> 00:55:53,359
she went they went through this fog and

1491
00:55:55,829 --> 00:55:54,079
they

1492
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:55,839
this being came right in front of them

1493
00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:57,599
and they almost felt that they were

1494
00:56:00,549 --> 00:55:59,040
going to run over it they thought it ran

1495
00:56:01,270 --> 00:56:00,559
over a person but there was no person

1496
00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:01,280
there

1497
00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:02,400
uh so

1498
00:56:06,309 --> 00:56:04,480
again this is a point where throughout

1499
00:56:08,309 --> 00:56:06,319
her life she's had some really

1500
00:56:10,630 --> 00:56:08,319
interesting experiences

1501
00:56:12,789 --> 00:56:10,640
uh you know alien type of abduction type

1502
00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:12,799
experience etc and then she keeps on

1503
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:14,400
having them

1504
00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:16,000
she seems to have gained some kind of

1505
00:56:20,069 --> 00:56:18,559
ability from maybe some of those initial

1506
00:56:22,069 --> 00:56:20,079
encounters she had

1507
00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:22,079
uh and maybe because her mind was open

1508
00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:24,480
up enough to see some new some new

1509
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:26,559
things later in her life

1510
00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:29,200
so anyway so that was the the skinwalker

1511
00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:31,920
story of one of my daughters so the only

1512
00:56:35,109 --> 00:56:33,520
thing i wanted to ask you right

1513
00:56:37,750 --> 00:56:35,119
can we take a little bit of a break and

1514
00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:37,760
maybe start our second uh session here

1515
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:39,680
in a little bit that's exactly what i

1516
00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:41,680
was gonna say let's wrap this up this

1517
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:43,119
first segment

1518
00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:46,000
i was you're reading my mind and um i

1519
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:47,440
just wanted to finish with saying

1520
00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:49,920
rainbow i'm so glad that you mentioned

1521
00:56:54,789 --> 00:56:52,640
uh castaneda and how like the eagles

1522
00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:54,799
gift and like the eagle way man is is

1523
00:56:58,549 --> 00:56:56,559
way stronger than the witchery people i

1524
00:57:00,069 --> 00:56:58,559
think that's a good ending note you know

1525
00:57:01,270 --> 00:57:00,079
that there is good in the world and

1526
00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:01,280
there's

1527
00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:03,280
it's it's easy to go down the slippery

1528
00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:07,440
slope of negativity but um that yeah the

1529
00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:08,799
i think that was really good that you

1530
00:57:13,190 --> 00:57:10,240
mentioned that that's a good way to kind

1531
00:57:14,789 --> 00:57:13,200
of end this first segment and yeah let's

1532
00:57:16,150 --> 00:57:14,799
let's pick up where we left off here

1533
00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:16,160
soon

1534
00:57:22,470 --> 00:57:19,359
man oh man rainbow and mike are some of

1535
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:22,480
my favorite people to talk to because of

1536
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:25,440
the amount of experience they have

1537
00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:26,400
the amount

1538
00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:28,400
of

1539
00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:30,640
knowledge and

1540
00:57:34,630 --> 00:57:32,640
working knowledge in the field that they

1541
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:34,640
have dealing with

1542
00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:36,480
the things that

1543
00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:39,040
go bump in the night

1544
00:57:42,470 --> 00:57:40,960
i think they they they've they've

1545
00:57:44,549 --> 00:57:42,480
definitely

1546
00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:44,559
spent their time out on those ranch

1547
00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:45,839
roads

1548
00:57:50,710 --> 00:57:48,640
in those portal and vortex areas if you

1549
00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:50,720
have a chance please check out their

1550
00:57:56,150 --> 00:57:53,440
youtube channel dimensional walking

1551
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:56,160
and uh keep in touch with them they

1552
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:58,000
always have great stuff that they're

1553
00:58:02,950 --> 00:58:00,960
dropping and um mike's

1554
00:58:04,870 --> 00:58:02,960
portal and vortex photography is

1555
00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:04,880
actually quite stunning

1556
00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:08,720
and uh yeah keep an eye out for part two

1557
00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:12,480
of this series with rainbow and mike and

1558
00:58:17,589 --> 00:58:14,640
we are going to talk more

1559
00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:17,599
that's right more about wizardry

1560
00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:19,920
southwestern sorcery

1561
00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:24,240
shape shifters portals ufos vortexes

1562
00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:26,400
and cryptozoology

1563
00:58:32,549 --> 00:58:29,920
part two is patron only so go to patreon

1564
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:32,559
and look for hero paranormal and you can

1565
00:58:36,789 --> 00:58:34,720
hear part two it's great

1566
00:58:39,430 --> 00:58:36,799
part two will be coming soon and thanks

1567
00:58:42,230 --> 00:58:39,440
for tuning in until next time keep your

1568
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:42,240
eyes to the skies feet on the ground but

1569
00:58:53,610 --> 00:59:02,789
[Music]

1570
00:59:02,799 --> 00:59:07,970
machine